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Experiences of Bavaria 38 Ocean gratefully received!
pipemma:
Hello! New to the forum as we're seriously looking at a 1998 38 Ocean centre cockpit. Although we've sailed plenty of Bavarias in our time, this would be the first time owning, coming from Jeanneau. We'd very much appreciate your thoughts and experiences on the model. We hear really good things about them, but would like to know what things in particular we should look for and what the common faults/issues are. Forewarned is forearmed.
Also a few specific things we've noticed after initial inspection:
- The gypsy (furling drum? sailmaker called it a gypsy) for the outhaul on the mast(in-mast furling) seems to be a little loose - is this common? If not, and/or if worn, is this a relatively easy fix?
- What size is the standard hot water tank?
- There seem to be very few sockets, either 220V or 12V - is this usual? Is it fairly easy to retrofit?
- The spray hood design seems a little difficult to drop, as it requires unzipping the whole thing. Does anyone have any good solutions?
We are fairly competent at boat DIY but our time is limited.
Thanks a million in advance!
Pipemma
Yngmar:
Welcome. If you peruse the forum search, you should find a thread or two about the 38 Ocean or the similar 40 Ocean (2 years later model). Like this one.
There's also a long thread where owners report common issues with their models here.
As for your questions, the hot water tank is, uhm, maybe 40 - 60 litre? I've not really measured it. As you'll have probably have the MD22 engine it will be full of 90°C hot water after running the engine for a while, which means mixed down with cold water to non-scalding temperatures it will last quite a while! We usually get at least four showers out of it. We had to fit a thermostatic mixing valve on ours as it was too hot for the plastic pipes (bit of an oversight by Bavaria then).
Sockets are easy to retrofit as access to places is surprisingly good by comparison to other boats! We've got them in every cabin, although it was already done that way when we got the boat.
Our sprayhood on top of the glass windscreen requires undoing two straps and then opening two zips on the sides partially - takes about one minute to drop, not that we do this often - the center glass window is openable after all.
I don't know what you mean by a gypsy on the mast. Our gypsy is on the windlass?
If you've not found a boat yet, our 40 Ocean is coming up for sale this winter in Spain ;D
symphony2:
The manual for the inmast furler is here support.seldenmast.com/files/1426855956/595-063-E.pdf and I assume you are talking about the furling drum. This does a lot of work furling and unfurling the mainsail so not surprising after more than 20 years there may be some wear. Suggest you get a Selden rigger to check it out.
pipemma:
--- Quote from: symphony2 on September 28 2022, 22:06 ---The manual for the inmast furler is here support.seldenmast.com/files/1426855956/595-063-E.pdf and I assume you are talking about the furling drum. This does a lot of work furling and unfurling the mainsail so not surprising after more than 20 years there may be some wear. Suggest you get a Selden rigger to check it out.
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Thank you, I'll have a read of that. I was talking to a sailmaker the other day who reckoned that replacing the furling drum is a mast-down job - is that correct?
pipemma:
--- Quote from: Yngmar on September 28 2022, 16:35 ---Welcome. If you peruse the forum search, you should find a thread or two about the 38 Ocean or the similar 40 Ocean (2 years later model). Like this one.
There's also a long thread where owners report common issues with their models here.
As for your questions, the hot water tank is, uhm, maybe 40 - 60 litre? I've not really measured it. As you'll have probably have the MD22 engine it will be full of 90°C hot water after running the engine for a while, which means mixed down with cold water to non-scalding temperatures it will last quite a while! We usually get at least four showers out of it. We had to fit a thermostatic mixing valve on ours as it was too hot for the plastic pipes (bit of an oversight by Bavaria then).
Sockets are easy to retrofit as access to places is surprisingly good by comparison to other boats! We've got them in every cabin, although it was already done that way when we got the boat.
Our sprayhood on top of the glass windscreen requires undoing two straps and then opening two zips on the sides partially - takes about one minute to drop, not that we do this often - the center glass window is openable after all.
I don't know what you mean by a gypsy on the mast. Our gypsy is on the windlass?
If you've not found a boat yet, our 40 Ocean is coming up for sale this winter in Spain ;D
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Thank you for the links and info.
Afraid we don't want any larger the 38 - we're in Greece, Tepai and all that. We're also downsizing with a view to the next 15-20 years
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