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symphony2

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No longer a Bavaria owner
« on: March 10 2022, 10:32 »
For the first time for 21 years as of today I am no longer a Bavaria owner. Mixed feelings as I really enjoyed owning them, first the 37 in Corfu and back to UK and since 2015 the 33 Cruiser. Buying them both new was an exciting experience, the first because it was through a charter management contract and I had to pay in DMs (remember them?) and then later taking full ownership including dealing with the VAT and removal from the Greek register. Deciding to buy the 33 was a big gamble as I was going through a complex medical issue and was not sure how long I had to go, so buying the boat was a way of maximising the pleasure out of what might have been a relatively short life. I got a fantastic deal with Bavaria and Clipper which included taking my 37 in part exchange. The 37 moved on very quickly and sold to a delightful family who took her back to the Med.

So, why am I selling? Prime mover is that unlike 2015 I now have a much more certain future following a kidney transplant in late 2016 and I have had a lot of fun sailing the 33 up and down the coast, but it is so "perfect" that there is little I can do to improve it, and I enjoy the work on boats, particularly now I am more capable of doing the work. So I have fulfilled a lifelong ambition and bought a 1979 Golden Hind, similar to my old 26' version only 31'. My first cross channel sail was in a GH and I knew the builder at the time. It left good memories. I have had it since November and originally I was going to keep the 33 for another year while I did my refurb, but the current high prices prompted me to put it on the market just before Christmas. Got a buyer, the second to view at almost full asking price. Little bit of a delay in completing because we agreed that I would get certain small items fixed first. biggest hold up was getting the wind transducer repaired and then the weather to go up the mast to fit it. Anyhow that was fixed finally on Monday and the new owner will get as close to a new boat as it is possible to buy and at 70% of the cost of a new 34!

The broker I used, Peter Keats was a broker at Clipper and sold me the boat originally and I can recommend him to anybody wanting to sell a Bavaria as he really knows the boats and is super efficient at the paperwork and ensuring that the transaction goes smoothly. Finding potential buyers in the current environment is relatively easy. Turning them into actual buyers with minimum  hassle is where a broker earns his keep.

I shall keep an eye on this forum as I enjoy participating and hope that I can continue to make a useful contribution.

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Re: No longer a Bavaria owner
« Reply #1 on: March 10 2022, 11:03 »
Well done, and I hope you have lots of enjoyment working on the Golden Hind.  I'm toying with the idea of selling my 2014 Cruiser 37, as my old knees are gradually limiting my mobility!

Many thanks for all your well-considered forum contributions (here and elsewhere) and it's good to hear that you'll still be around.

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Re: No longer a Bavaria owner
« Reply #2 on: March 10 2022, 11:41 »
Hi Sympathy2,

I felt bound to reply, as your advice has assisted me greatly since I bought my 32 in July 2019.   Also we have apparently shared quite similar experiences.   I started sailing in my teens and I am now approaching 84.   I bought an old cotton sail Enterprise dinghy which did not measure and carefully altered her so she did and I could race her.  Later I built and raced three fireball dinghy’s and in the sixties changed to my beloved Legend 34 her latter fifteen  years sailed in the Ionian.   My partner and I took  her from the East coast of the UK down the French canals (we took a whole Summer doing this which was very different from the cruising of the UK, the Netherlands and the North and West coasts of France where we had previously cruised).   I have found your mention of Govia Marina and other parts of Greece interesting because I had visited all of those places too.

I hope you have lots of enjoyment on your Golden Hind and wish you all the very best in your future sailing.

Chris.

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Re: No longer a Bavaria owner
« Reply #3 on: March 11 2022, 08:32 »
Congrats on your Golden Hind, use her in good health.  And, many thanks for your contributions.  I'm hoping we'll still see them on a very regular basis.
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Re: No longer a Bavaria owner
« Reply #4 on: March 12 2022, 08:43 »
Good luck for the future aboard the Golden Hind and hopefully you can look forward to better health...
Over the years that I've been on this forum you've demonstrated a vast knowledge of all things maritime and Bavaria...And that has been to the benefit of us all..
So, please remain a regular contributor to the forums pool of expertise, as you'll always be regarded as a 'virtual' Bavaria owner......Bill.

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Re: No longer a Bavaria owner
« Reply #5 on: June 07 2022, 22:25 »
Hi Symphony2 and everyone else...
Well, it's been a long time since I last posted here; life and the Covid restrictions have kept me apart from my beloved Figaro for nigh-on 3 years so I too have just sold up. There didn't seem much point in keeping a floating man-cave that didn't get used so  I asked a local agent down to view in March while she was out of the water. His words - "she's immaculate" ( covered in dust, muck and open paint tins!) - I thought he was just being enthusiastic but a couple of weeks later, he bought her privately for himself and his family. The whole thing took less than 10 days start to finish and she's gone, just like that. Anyone know how to fill the black hole that's left?
I understand we're all getting older, etc., but (unless you are replacing), think carefully before you sign on the dotted line... selling Fig is the biggest mistake I've ever made, even if I was getting a bit doddery.
Warmest regards everyone, this is still the best forum I've ever used and with the nicest and most knowledgeable people anyone could wish for.
I'll be dipping in frequently. Stay safe.
ATB
Mark :0)
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Mark

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Re: No longer a Bavaria owner
« Reply #6 on: June 09 2022, 06:55 »
Mark,

Best of luck and fair winds.  Keep checking in for sure!  Thanks for contributing.

Brad
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Re: No longer a Bavaria owner
« Reply #7 on: December 05 2024, 18:36 »
Dear all

Well, here's a turn-up for the old books. When I sold Figaro to my friend, I asked him (half-jokingly) to give me first refusal if he ever wanted to sell. It's two years on and I've spent the time restoring a '89 Cornish Yawl (25') and converting her into cutter-rig with a retractable bowsprit. It's stretched the grey gloop more than I'd bargained for but is now on the cusp of completion. Imagine my surprise when my mate called and offered me Fig back as he had to downsize. Deal struck and we've swapped boats so I've got Figaro back. I'm looking forward to catching up with what's going on in the forum.

Isn't life amazing...?

Cheers all

Mark :0)

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Re: No longer a Bavaria owner
« Reply #8 on: December 05 2024, 19:08 »
Welcome back!

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Re: No longer a Bavaria owner
« Reply #9 on: December 06 2024, 17:16 »
Thanks Tiger, feels like coming home. Hope everyone's well.
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Re: No longer a Bavaria owner
« Reply #10 on: December 06 2024, 17:41 »
Thanks Tiger, feels like coming home. Hope everyone's well.
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We all seem to be fine!  Coincidentally, I'm considering selling my lovely Cruiser 37 next year.  I don't use the boat as much as I used to, and it's becoming an expensive luxury (my £5K marina berthing bill has just arrived too!).

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Re: No longer a Bavaria owner
« Reply #11 on: December 06 2024, 19:12 »
Nice boat.  I’ve been looking for something a little larger than our current B30 and focussed on the 34 to 38ft size.  I'd go bigger than that if my wife allowed  ;D   Of all the recent boats in that size, I keep coming back to the Bav 37.
We went window shoping for options in Dusseldorf Boot this year but the quality of the new production boats wasn’t a patch on what it used to be even 5 years ago.
Good luck whether you decide to sell or try to find more time to spend afloat.

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Re: No longer a Bavaria owner
« Reply #12 on: December 18 2024, 10:40 »
hi, i was diverphil until the email change, good to know your going to stay around, your knowledge of the brand and advice has helped me with repairs to our 33c 2006. when we bought it we had only limited understanding of how the boat systems worked, as a mechanic i would have worked things out, but its much better with advice from somebody who's had previous knowledge.
hope all goes well with your new project
all the best for xmas and the new year
Phil