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tckearney

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running rigging
« on: September 07 2021, 08:59 »
Good day.  I am looking to change the running rigging on my B42 .     Can anybody advise what is best to use.  I have been told Braid on Briad but have noticed the price for a 10mm or 12mm 100mtr real varies from  £ 80 to £250 for 10mm   & £120 to £300 for 12mm .    Why is this?  Why the big variation per size.   I do not race or push the boat hard.  What do I really need.  As always I am on a budget.   Any advice.   

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Re: running rigging
« Reply #1 on: September 07 2021, 10:25 »
For halyards you most likely want rope with quite low stretch, thus e.g. modern high-modulus Dyneema core with polyester cover, which is somewhat more expensive than plain braid-on-braid polyester. For sheets polyester-on-polyester might be suitable for cruising application. Different manufacturing technologies and materials account for high price range.

I bought some new running rigging (and have some more to upgrade) and here are my selections:
Spinnaker sheets - polyester braid-on-braid 12mm
Spinnaker guy (brace) - Gleistein Cruise XP polyester-on-dyneema 12mm
Traveller control line - polyester braid-on-braid 8mm (Gleistein Tasmania)
Main furling endless line - polyester braid-on-braid 10mm I think (Gleistein Gemini X)
Main & Genoa halyard (planning) - Gleistein Cruise XP polyester-on-dyneema 12mm for Genoa, 10mm for Main
Topping lift (planning) - polyester braid-on-braid 10mm

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Re: running rigging
« Reply #2 on: September 07 2021, 12:23 »
I’ve recently replaced most of my running rigging. I replaced the original 12mm polyester double braid with 10mm dyneema core with polyester out cover. Look for  reel ends on eBay by Liros or Southern Ropes, or google cruising dyneema.
The 10mm dyneema is stronger and lower stretch than the original 12mm polyester and runs much more easily through the blocks, jammers etc.
Should have done it years ago!

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Re: running rigging
« Reply #3 on: September 07 2021, 12:31 »
Dyneema 10mm Gottifredi Softech. I am replacing old original  12 mm ropes.

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Re: running rigging
« Reply #4 on: September 07 2021, 20:52 »

The 10mm dyneema is stronger and lower stretch than the original 12mm polyester and runs much more easily through the blocks, jammers etc.
Should have done it years ago!
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I agree all. Plus: less difficult to put on place after use. Plus, now taking the jib flyes

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Re: running rigging
« Reply #5 on: September 08 2021, 14:32 »
For money-smart sailors who don't race and don't want to spend the extra coin for UHMWPE, a good intermediate step is polyester parallel strand core with braided polyester cover. Gleistein makes this, others probably too. It has no constructive stretch and less elasticity than braid-on-braid.

Would use this for Genoa and Main halyards, possibly also for outhaul. For the rest (sheets, control lines, etc.) polyester braid-on-braid is fine. Original sizes as fitted by Bavaria are sensible and do not normally need adjusting. If you do want to adjust for some reason, make sure the new size is compatible with your sheaves, blocks and rope clutches (the size range is usually written on them).
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tckearney

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Re: running rigging
« Reply #6 on: September 09 2021, 09:36 »
Thanks Ygmar   what about Kingfisher Braid on Priad polyester are they any good

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Re: running rigging
« Reply #7 on: September 09 2021, 10:14 »
Kingfisher dyneema is cheap but from what I’ve been told not brilliant. I recently bought some Southern Rope dyneema from eBay at a very reasonable price.

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Re: running rigging
« Reply #8 on: September 09 2021, 10:46 »
Just buy polyester braid-on-braid and save your money for beer.  Dyneema won't make you go any faster.

Kingfisher is fine for general use.

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Re: running rigging
« Reply #9 on: September 09 2021, 13:25 »
Changing from polyester 12 mm to Dyneema 10 mm is big advantage that you cannot imagine until you try it.