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Bav 37 (2006) Spinnaker
« on: April 04 2021, 19:36 »
I would be grateful if someone could let me know what size of spinnaker I should look for for my 37 Cruiser. My manual does not give sail areas or dimensions unfortunately.
Thanks in anticipation.
Simon

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Re: Bav 37 (2006) Spinnaker
« Reply #1 on: April 04 2021, 23:31 »
There isn't a definitive size for a spinnaker, but many different sizes and cuts. Suggest you talk to a couple of sailmakers about what you hope to achieve and what they would recommend.

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Re: Bav 37 (2006) Spinnaker
« Reply #2 on: April 05 2021, 10:54 »
The reason I asked for sizes is that I am not going to purchase a new one and will probably go for a second-hand sail as it will not come out of its bag when SWMBO is aboard so just wanted an idea of what size to look for.

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Re: Bav 37 (2006) Spinnaker
« Reply #3 on: April 05 2021, 12:54 »
Spinnaker or cruising chute?

We are about to list a cruising chute on ebay  that was made for a 2003 B38.

Unfortunately it was made too small for the B38 which is actually a 40ft boat. So would probably suit a boat that is closer to 38ft.

Although the sail was made in 2003 it looks like it has never been used, probably because it is just too small.

Let me know if you want more details.

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Re: Bav 37 (2006) Spinnaker
« Reply #4 on: April 06 2021, 10:48 »
If you are going for a spinnaker, you need some extra equipment like spi-pole, winches and so on. If you go with a cruising chute, you need less additional equipment, and the handling will be easier than a spi-gear, especially if you sail shorthanded.

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Re: Bav 37 (2006) Spinnaker
« Reply #5 on: April 06 2021, 12:01 »
How could I identify the exact difference between a "Cruising chute" and a "Spinaker""

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Re: Bav 37 (2006) Spinnaker
« Reply #6 on: April 06 2021, 14:00 »
There are several articles online about selecting downwind sails - the first compact one that I stumbled across is https://www.take5sailing.com/spinnaker-or-gennaker/

A nice spinnker-101 type video can be found at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ss4wcpX3TnM

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Re: Bav 37 (2006) Spinnaker
« Reply #7 on: April 07 2021, 00:01 »
ScorcherIV,
A cruising chute is an Asymmetrical cut/shape and a Spinnaker is Symmetrical. So when you are searching look for Cruising Chutes or Asymmetrical spinnakers. The asymmetrical is designed to fly like a large loose jib, with distinctive clew and tack. The symmetrical spinnaker is symmetrical and the clews and tacks are interchangeable. Having said that a symmetrical spinnaker can be rigged and gybed like an asymmetrical spinnaker, it just will not set as nicely.
As SYJetzt said you will need more equipment if intending to rig for a symmetrical spinnaker; spinnaker pole to control the tack (with uphaul and down haul), each clew will generally have a sheet and brace attached. The brace is used on the tack (windward corner of the sail) and is lead through the pole and a block near the middle of the boat and can be sheeted to the primary winch. The sheet s used on the clew (leeward corner of the sail) and is lead to a block near the transom and can be sheeted to a halyard winch on the cabin top.
For the asymmetrical set up, the tack is connected to the bow of the boat by a strop. This can be from the headstem fitting or from a short bowsprit. The two sheets are both connected to the clew. The lazy sheet is lead outside the forestay and can be inside or outside the asymmetrical tack.
The Asymmetrical set up is much easier to handle as there is no pole to juggle.
For sail size the luff length is going to be the critical dimension, and will generally be longer than the distance between the spinnaker halyard entry and the bow.

Cheers
Mark Hutton
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Re: Bav 37 (2006) Spinnaker
« Reply #8 on: April 07 2021, 00:23 »
Hi Scorcher 1V
I have the same boat with a selection of symmetrical & Assymetrical spinnakers, eg 3x syms for running, depending on wind speed, 1x assy for reaching on strong breezes.
Once you have determined what you intend to use the spinnaker forcruising/racing, reaching/running, etc, I can give some sail dimensions.
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Re: Bav 37 (2006) Spinnaker
« Reply #9 on: April 07 2021, 17:11 »
Hi Konan,
It is just for cruising only.
Simon

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Re: Bav 37 (2006) Spinnaker
« Reply #10 on: April 20 2021, 04:54 »
Sorry for the delay,
8-22 knots  100m2 symmetrical (i dont seem to have measurements for this)
12-25 knots 13.05x13.05x7.4 (.75oz) symmetrical
15-28knots 12.45x12.45x7.1 (1.5oz) symmetrical
15-25knots Assyymmetrical (i dont seem to have measurements for this either)

I hope this helps

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Re: Bav 37 (2006) Spinnaker
« Reply #11 on: April 20 2021, 11:17 »
Scorcher IV (Simon)
The OEM downwind sail size for the 37 differs as the rigs are different on the 37 Cruiser Pre 2013 (J7J design) and the Cruiser 37 Post 2013 (Farr design). The latter has a chute size of 81 square meters. However. It has a twin (looped single line) backstay which is allegedly much stronger. The earlier J&J design has a single backstay split into two. The J length on the J&J design is much bigger. Allowing for 120-140% Genoa. The Farr design can only accommodate 105%. When looking at downwind sails be sure your supplier knows the age of the boat and the design. When we got our cruising chute. Two reputable sail lofts quoted us for the wrong design/size.  Hope this helps. Ant. 
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